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		<title>By: prongs</title>
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		<dc:creator>prongs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sherrly flag??

hah typical macross triangle.... always choose the older ^_^</description>
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<p>hah typical macross triangle&#8230;. always choose the older ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: Crusader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Haesslich &amp; ani_d
I wouldn&#039;t say that Alto is as thick to the point that hime is a machine, but on the other had while he cares for both hime has been wolfing down more humble pie for Sheryl&#039;s sake, not to mention put his own job at risk by taking her to the ship. Watching some of the episodes again if the subs are correct the Alto at least respects Sheryl enough to quote her. More over Alto has been more willing to deal with Sheryl&#039;s presence in his own stride in contrast to the beatings that Brera has given him. I think Alto is too proud to be bullied, but for whatever reason Sheryl seemed to get away with it though Alto seems to be more willing to listen to women than men. 

He has attachment to both Ranka and Sheryl though right now taking a lot of Ranka&#039;s bullshit means taking the Brera beating which Alto is none to happy to receive. For a guy whose only knowledge of love in the romantic sense is heavily influenced by kabuki in all probability and granted that Alto-hime was Sakura-hime Sheryl might be the one courting Alto the only way he knows. Sakura-hime was not chasing no one, she was being chased, so maybe the parallel is more significant than we thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Haesslich &amp; ani_d<br />
I wouldn&#8217;t say that Alto is as thick to the point that hime is a machine, but on the other had while he cares for both hime has been wolfing down more humble pie for Sheryl&#8217;s sake, not to mention put his own job at risk by taking her to the ship. Watching some of the episodes again if the subs are correct the Alto at least respects Sheryl enough to quote her. More over Alto has been more willing to deal with Sheryl&#8217;s presence in his own stride in contrast to the beatings that Brera has given him. I think Alto is too proud to be bullied, but for whatever reason Sheryl seemed to get away with it though Alto seems to be more willing to listen to women than men. </p>
<p>He has attachment to both Ranka and Sheryl though right now taking a lot of Ranka&#8217;s bullshit means taking the Brera beating which Alto is none to happy to receive. For a guy whose only knowledge of love in the romantic sense is heavily influenced by kabuki in all probability and granted that Alto-hime was Sakura-hime Sheryl might be the one courting Alto the only way he knows. Sakura-hime was not chasing no one, she was being chased, so maybe the parallel is more significant than we thought.</p>
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		<title>By: ani</title>
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		<dc:creator>ani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;For the most part, Alto’s not really made an effort to run after either girl, although he did seek Sheryl out following Mikhail’s suggestion in Ep 18. &quot;

I think you just need to rewatch episode 10. Ranka wasn&#039;t dying on this one and there was nothing he needed to return btw. 

You&#039;re making Alto look like a robot who only falls for the one who is BESIDE him at the moment. He may be dense, but Alto does not forget the girl in expense of the girl he is beside with. He&#039;s better than that. =_= Alto may express &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; concern for two girls esp. in their time of needs, but there&#039;s only one girl Alto cares for the most. The story has been pretty consistent in portraying this ever since the beginning up to now. 

&quot;Nor does he know where she’s going, and he doesn’t have a way to chase her at this point if he wanted to.&quot;

And I&#039;m not really saying Alto will ride his VF now when he doesn&#039;t even know where he&#039;s going. x_x Of course something will happen that will reveal Ranka&#039;s whereabouts and he can act from there. Things will get revealed, the story will move. When that time comes, I don&#039;t expect Alto to just sit around and forget about whatever happened to Ranka. Just look at him in episode 21. Does he look like he&#039;s going to forget this the next day and the day after and so forth? lol

And for what reason will Ranka come back for in Frontier? Frontier hates the Vajra. If she finds out she can control the Vajra, what she&#039;s going to do is to lure the Vajra away from Frontier. I doubt she&#039;ll return once she knows she&#039;s a lil queen alien. She should know she&#039;s Frontier&#039;s public enemy # 1 by now.

I thought Galaxy&#039;s main target are the Vajra and the little queen, Frontier is more like a tool to them. :&#124; No?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For the most part, Alto’s not really made an effort to run after either girl, although he did seek Sheryl out following Mikhail’s suggestion in Ep 18. &#8221;</p>
<p>I think you just need to rewatch episode 10. Ranka wasn&#8217;t dying on this one and there was nothing he needed to return btw. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re making Alto look like a robot who only falls for the one who is BESIDE him at the moment. He may be dense, but Alto does not forget the girl in expense of the girl he is beside with. He&#8217;s better than that. =_= Alto may express <i>real</i> concern for two girls esp. in their time of needs, but there&#8217;s only one girl Alto cares for the most. The story has been pretty consistent in portraying this ever since the beginning up to now. </p>
<p>&#8220;Nor does he know where she’s going, and he doesn’t have a way to chase her at this point if he wanted to.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m not really saying Alto will ride his VF now when he doesn&#8217;t even know where he&#8217;s going. x_x Of course something will happen that will reveal Ranka&#8217;s whereabouts and he can act from there. Things will get revealed, the story will move. When that time comes, I don&#8217;t expect Alto to just sit around and forget about whatever happened to Ranka. Just look at him in episode 21. Does he look like he&#8217;s going to forget this the next day and the day after and so forth? lol</p>
<p>And for what reason will Ranka come back for in Frontier? Frontier hates the Vajra. If she finds out she can control the Vajra, what she&#8217;s going to do is to lure the Vajra away from Frontier. I doubt she&#8217;ll return once she knows she&#8217;s a lil queen alien. She should know she&#8217;s Frontier&#8217;s public enemy # 1 by now.</p>
<p>I thought Galaxy&#8217;s main target are the Vajra and the little queen, Frontier is more like a tool to them. :| No?</p>
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		<title>By: Haesslich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haesslich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alto, at this point, is nearing Isamu Dyson levels of recklessness, without the latter&#039;s skill in a VF.  He&#039;s more hotheaded than Hikaru, but not as visibly attached to her as Hikaru was to Minmei.  While he won&#039;t forget about Ranka, he may conclude she&#039;s a stupid kid and then turn his attention onto other matters.

It&#039;s been shown that, when he&#039;s with one of the girls, he tends to forget completely about the other one and focus on what&#039;s at hand.  He did this with Ranka in Episodes 13 and 14... and conversely, seemed to forget that Ranka existed during eps when he&#039;s with Sheryl.   We&#039;ve yet to see him pull a Hikaru and run after Girl #2 when he&#039;s with Girl #1 - if you remember Episode 20, BOTH of them went after Ranka rather than Alto running off after her.  Outside of concern for being killed by Alto, as well as any brotherly feelings he may feel towards her after having protected her up till Ep 14 or so, we don&#039;t really see him paying all that much attention to Ranka, just as she doesn&#039;t seem to really think about him unless it&#039;s a convenient moment.

And at this point, Ozma&#039;s not likely to find out about Ranka until the very end - and even then, he&#039;ll yell at Alto for not having stopped her... but short of having a VF of his own, there was NO WAY he could&#039;ve done anything.  Nor does he know where she&#039;s going, and he doesn&#039;t have a way to chase her at this point if he wanted to.  We&#039;re more likely to see Ranka come running back to Frontier rather than Alto &#039;rescuing&#039; her again... not after being beaten twice by Brera, and not after she ran off after treating Mikhail&#039;s death like it was nothing, ignoring any feelings Alto had on the matter, and without any reasonable way of finding her.

Alto&#039;s not nearly as attached to her as past protagonists have been attached to a member of the triangle; if anything, she&#039;ll be the one doing the rescuing rather than the reverse.  At least Hikaru kept running after Minmei, and Isamu and Guld kept chasing after Myung (figuratively speaking).  For the most part, Alto&#039;s not really made an effort to run after either girl, although he did seek Sheryl out following Mikhail&#039;s suggestion in Ep 18.  Ranka hasn&#039;t sought Alto out often, whereas she&#039;s found time to skip work with Brera.  Only Sheryl&#039;s shown any interest in chasing down Alto to spend time with him, of all the members in the triangle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alto, at this point, is nearing Isamu Dyson levels of recklessness, without the latter&#8217;s skill in a VF.  He&#8217;s more hotheaded than Hikaru, but not as visibly attached to her as Hikaru was to Minmei.  While he won&#8217;t forget about Ranka, he may conclude she&#8217;s a stupid kid and then turn his attention onto other matters.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been shown that, when he&#8217;s with one of the girls, he tends to forget completely about the other one and focus on what&#8217;s at hand.  He did this with Ranka in Episodes 13 and 14&#8230; and conversely, seemed to forget that Ranka existed during eps when he&#8217;s with Sheryl.   We&#8217;ve yet to see him pull a Hikaru and run after Girl #2 when he&#8217;s with Girl #1 &#8211; if you remember Episode 20, BOTH of them went after Ranka rather than Alto running off after her.  Outside of concern for being killed by Alto, as well as any brotherly feelings he may feel towards her after having protected her up till Ep 14 or so, we don&#8217;t really see him paying all that much attention to Ranka, just as she doesn&#8217;t seem to really think about him unless it&#8217;s a convenient moment.</p>
<p>And at this point, Ozma&#8217;s not likely to find out about Ranka until the very end &#8211; and even then, he&#8217;ll yell at Alto for not having stopped her&#8230; but short of having a VF of his own, there was NO WAY he could&#8217;ve done anything.  Nor does he know where she&#8217;s going, and he doesn&#8217;t have a way to chase her at this point if he wanted to.  We&#8217;re more likely to see Ranka come running back to Frontier rather than Alto &#8216;rescuing&#8217; her again&#8230; not after being beaten twice by Brera, and not after she ran off after treating Mikhail&#8217;s death like it was nothing, ignoring any feelings Alto had on the matter, and without any reasonable way of finding her.</p>
<p>Alto&#8217;s not nearly as attached to her as past protagonists have been attached to a member of the triangle; if anything, she&#8217;ll be the one doing the rescuing rather than the reverse.  At least Hikaru kept running after Minmei, and Isamu and Guld kept chasing after Myung (figuratively speaking).  For the most part, Alto&#8217;s not really made an effort to run after either girl, although he did seek Sheryl out following Mikhail&#8217;s suggestion in Ep 18.  Ranka hasn&#8217;t sought Alto out often, whereas she&#8217;s found time to skip work with Brera.  Only Sheryl&#8217;s shown any interest in chasing down Alto to spend time with him, of all the members in the triangle.</p>
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		<title>By: ani</title>
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		<dc:creator>ani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Haesslich
Oh Really? A youtube vid, wow I never thought of that. As expected from a genius. ^__^ Sure, why not?

I&#039;m not underestimating Alto&#039;s hate for the Vajra, you&#039;re the one underestimating Alto&#039;s concern for Ranka. He&#039;s not going to shoot AT her even if the world comes to an end. After episode 21, how can you even conclude this? He&#039;s also not going to sit around and forget about the lost Ranka once he finds out the truth about the Vajra and her. That will be out of character for Alto. He may get delayed, but he would definitely do &lt;i&gt;something&lt;/i&gt;. Even if for some weird reason he didn&#039;t, Ozma will not let him live it down. In fact, Ozma will most likely tear him to shreds if he ever hears that Alto let Ranka leave like that and is not doing anything lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Haesslich<br />
Oh Really? A youtube vid, wow I never thought of that. As expected from a genius. ^__^ Sure, why not?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not underestimating Alto&#8217;s hate for the Vajra, you&#8217;re the one underestimating Alto&#8217;s concern for Ranka. He&#8217;s not going to shoot AT her even if the world comes to an end. After episode 21, how can you even conclude this? He&#8217;s also not going to sit around and forget about the lost Ranka once he finds out the truth about the Vajra and her. That will be out of character for Alto. He may get delayed, but he would definitely do <i>something</i>. Even if for some weird reason he didn&#8217;t, Ozma will not let him live it down. In fact, Ozma will most likely tear him to shreds if he ever hears that Alto let Ranka leave like that and is not doing anything lol</p>
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		<title>By: ItAintEazy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ItAintEazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kanon_fan82:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://that.animeblogger.net/2008/08/18/that-fall-2008-anime-preview/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;THAT Anime Blog 2008 Fall Preview&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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<p><a href="http://that.animeblogger.net/2008/08/18/that-fall-2008-anime-preview/" rel="nofollow">THAT Anime Blog 2008 Fall Preview</a></p>
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		<title>By: bakaneko</title>
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		<dc:creator>bakaneko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad thing about Macross F, being an anime which wants to sell lots of Ranka merchandise, is that you can almost guarantee the writers will contrive whatever they need to, in order to make Ranka Frontier&#039;s savior by the end of the series.

It nearly kills all the suspense right off the bat.

If only they can forego sales and instead tell a story by letting the characters they have first depicted to arrive at their own natural ending.  Like the way NGE did?  *ducks for covers*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad thing about Macross F, being an anime which wants to sell lots of Ranka merchandise, is that you can almost guarantee the writers will contrive whatever they need to, in order to make Ranka Frontier&#8217;s savior by the end of the series.</p>
<p>It nearly kills all the suspense right off the bat.</p>
<p>If only they can forego sales and instead tell a story by letting the characters they have first depicted to arrive at their own natural ending.  Like the way NGE did?  *ducks for covers*</p>
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		<title>By: Crusader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crusader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Haesslich &amp; Kabitizin
I hope Ranka goes back to Frontier on her own. If Alto-hime drags her back she will be damsel in distress de jour, if the Vajra drag her back then she is still &quot;woe is me,&quot; if Ranka goes back on her own it would actually be her first net positive growth in a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Haesslich &amp; Kabitizin<br />
I hope Ranka goes back to Frontier on her own. If Alto-hime drags her back she will be damsel in distress de jour, if the Vajra drag her back then she is still &#8220;woe is me,&#8221; if Ranka goes back on her own it would actually be her first net positive growth in a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Kabitzin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kabitzin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ranka will come back on her own, after a training episode.  It will be like Top wo Nerae with Ranka showing up with a fleet of Vajra behind her to defeat Grace.  Warp desu!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ranka will come back on her own, after a training episode.  It will be like Top wo Nerae with Ranka showing up with a fleet of Vajra behind her to defeat Grace.  Warp desu!</p>
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		<title>By: Haesslich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haesslich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ani:  You&#039;re ignoring Alto&#039;s massive hate-on for the Vajra, which is why he shot at Ai-kun in the first place.  This is the same guy who, in Episode 14, charged into the Vajra mothership and unleashed Reaction missiles right in the Queen&#039;s face.  At this point, I&#039;m not sure any protective feelings he has towards Ranka will be enough to overpower his desire to kill them, especially not after Mikhail&#039;s death.

Ranka will either come back ON HER OWN or else will get dragged back by the Vajra.  I don&#039;t see Alto rescuing her anymore - stumbling into her, but not rescuing her.  So if you bet it all and lose... will you go onto YouTube like that &quot;Leave Britney Alone&quot; guy in drag to apologize? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ani:  You&#8217;re ignoring Alto&#8217;s massive hate-on for the Vajra, which is why he shot at Ai-kun in the first place.  This is the same guy who, in Episode 14, charged into the Vajra mothership and unleashed Reaction missiles right in the Queen&#8217;s face.  At this point, I&#8217;m not sure any protective feelings he has towards Ranka will be enough to overpower his desire to kill them, especially not after Mikhail&#8217;s death.</p>
<p>Ranka will either come back ON HER OWN or else will get dragged back by the Vajra.  I don&#8217;t see Alto rescuing her anymore &#8211; stumbling into her, but not rescuing her.  So if you bet it all and lose&#8230; will you go onto YouTube like that &#8220;Leave Britney Alone&#8221; guy in drag to apologize? ;)</p>
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