Sola 13 [END]
July 2nd, 2007 by Shirukii
Sola fans breathe a collective sigh of relief as it manages to not screw up a perfectly set up ending. I was really doubting whether they’d have the guts to kill off Matsuri and Yorito, especially after the cliffhanger last week. But they pulled through and finished off with a great bittersweet “life goes on” type of ending. As with most of Sola’s development, it has been done to hell and back, but that doesn’t make it any less exceptional in its execution, an excellent ending. d7b031c9ba973492f94922ec19fe370e
Episode Rating: 10/10
Picking up where we left off, Matsuri goes to stab Aono, thus returning her to a human being. However, she hesitates for a moment and only manages to graze Aono’s shoulder. Yorito stands in between Aono and Matsuri and refuses his sister’s orders to move out of the way of her counter attack. The shock from Yorito’s disobedience and the pain from Matsuri’s sword makes Aono retreat for the moment.
With both Aono and Matsuri wounded, they both know this fight has to come to an end soon. Aono’s yaka powers are fading and Matsuri, having impaled herself, doesn’t have the energy to fight much longer. Gathering what remains of their fading strength, they cross blades one last time.
Not surprisingly, Matsuri ends up getting her ass handed to her. But when Aono charges at her for the final blow, Yorito once again parries the attack. But the strain on his body and Aono’s disappearing yaka powers can’t hold him together any longer, just like one of Aono’s paper clones, he disappears in a flurry of origami sheets. With a strengthened resolve from seeing Yorito sacrifice himself, Matsuri’s hesitation is gone, she stabs the crying Aono with the sword, returning her to her human form.
The two look on as Yorito’s paper remnants and the shards of Matsuri’s life force float away into the dawn’s sky. Off in the distant horizon, the sun rises and covers the two of them in light under a beautiful sky. Matsuri is glad that she was finally able to see the open sky, and disappears with a smile.
The second half of the finale is dedicated to the aftermath of the series. Hige and loli in a box continue to wander the world, only now enjoying each other’s company instead of being hellbent on revenge. But you can’t help but feel sorry for them, the fate that lies ahead of them is a cruel one. No matter the circumstances, Hige is human and will die one day, leaving loli in a box completely alone, especially since Aono is human as well, and Matsuri is gone.
A year has gone by since the incident that lasted a few months, yet Sae continues to bawl over Hige, annoying voice and all. Meanwhile, Aono, Koyori and Mana become friends all over again through the power of origami and the sky.
The final scene in the series makes everything come full circle, the ending mirroring the beginning. Mana, Koyori and Aono wake up early to go see the sunrise at the same place where the fateful meeting between Yorito and Matsuri took place. Complete with a brand new vending machine that has inherited its predecessor’s trait of eating money and needing a good kick to set it straight.
The final shot pans up to the gazebo on the hill, on it rests two empty cans of Matsuri’s favourite tomato soup drink.
Thoughts
A surprising thing happened during this final episode of Sola, my hate for Aono ALMOST disappeared completely. The flashback to when she and Matsuri first met portrayed her as a very kind and sincere person. I guess the bitter Aono we saw throughout the majority of the series was just a result of her guilting herself over Yorito’s death. It was nice to see her trying her best to move on and enjoy the new life she was given after Matsuri and Yorito’s sacrifice.
The flashback also explained the whole bit about Yorito’s sky tile ceiling and why it had such a profound effect on Matsuri’s emotions at the time.
But even though my “DIE IN A FIRE” hate for Aono has more or less subdued, I’m still an advocate for YoritoXMatsuri. The dynamic between the two is far more natural than it ever was between YoritoXAono. Even in the midst of a life threatening battle, the two manage to talk to each other naturally, as if on a typical weekend date. But again, as a rising Noto fan, I can’t say this opinion is completely without bias. For the other side of the argument, read Stripey’s take, although you can clearly see the siscon inspired bias here XD but despite disagreeing with him, I like to look at both sides of the argument and attempt to remain impartial.
One part of this episode that I liked was Mana’s screaming confession. It’s saddening to know that she won’t remember anything about Yorito in detail, but the feelings of nostalgia she has are an indication of how strong her feeling for him were. She even quit her job as a waitress at the family restaurant, the common belief being that when trying to get over a loved one, you change your lifestyle (or for girls, often their hairstyle).
Sola was a great series to blog, there was always just enough things going on that I could take a guess at what was coming next, yet random enough that it wasn’t completely predictable. Many thanks go to lolikit, who was responsible for me blogging Sola in the first place (even if he did bail soon after…), I probably would have picked something generic and shallow like Nagasarete Airantou instead, good call.
How do I copied character designs?
Sola was a generic series, through and through, with many borrowed cliches and played out plot developments. But it just goes to show that genericness doesn’t necessarily lead to a bad show, Sola took many things that have been done in that past, and used them damn well. While innovation will always come out on top, the familiarity of a series like Sola is a nice break, especially since the line between an innovative storyline and a stupid, nonsensical storyline isn’t very well defined.
Thanks to everyone who read these posts and added to the discussion, hopefully you stick around for the summer season, failing that, I’ll be sure to cover the Sola’s OVA episodes released with the DVDs.
Obligatory loli chop
~ Shirukii ~
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I myself was never fond of Aono at the start, but over the course of the series, I grew to like her as a character as I felt she had a lot of character growth compared to others. And with all the flashbacks it shows that she was truely a friend of Matsuri, and she still is. But now after that one year, it just seems that she is a totally different person.
@Adun : “But now after that one year, it just seems that she is a totally different person.” lol, It is not right to called it TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSON but instead of calling that you should called it turning back to her True self.
I am a fan of Aono from the beginning but i was focused on Matsuri more than her. And in the end, She impressed me alot that she is the one who teach Matsuri about the emotion of human and Matsuri seen to dont know it at all and it is the reason why she understand the feeling of being alone and resurrected Aono back after she killed herself but she maybe didnt know she is selfish by doing that.
Finally, I understand why Matsuri want to be a sacrifice and why she want to turned Aono back to human. It is not because she want anything from Aono or just want to make her promise with Yorito but i think her true reason is to save Aono from being suffer in pain of unable to accept Yorito’s Death and living outside of reality.
At the end they show us those 2 cans for the 2 OVAs that we r waitting for :)
You know, this is one of the best anime episodes I’ve ever seen…it’s just very well constructed…..takes care of the main conflict, ties up the lose ends/minor characters
and above all, it managed to AVOID THE MIRACLE ENDING! :) Yay! Or at least blatent miracle ending lol, I don’t know what the OVA’s have in store :P…..but as I’ve said before, OVA’s are more add-ons to the original concept…..
My Aono hate hasn’t died completely either Shirukii lol :)…..but I think it was lessened by the fact that she did suffer a bit in accepting Yorito’s death/attempt to save Matsuri :)
Sola started out slow, but finished in style :)…..Definitely worth the build-up……7.5 to 8/10 overall……only reason its not higher is because of the sheer number of borrowed cliche ;)
Well this turn-out was bad for me because of two reasons:
1. I hate Aono
2. I loved the show because of Matsuri and Yorito
But I still have to say this is an excellent show, though I kinda failed in accepting that Yorito was made of paper. I was hoping any kind of fantastical aspects of the show would be subtler and more…believable I guess.
Anyway though, I wonder what the further 3 episodes will be about, since I doubt they can continue any further (and if they do continue without Yorito and Matsuri, I will be -_- for a long while indeed.
@ Aono: Given that she spent hundreds of years BAAAAWing over Dorito-kun’s death, yea, 1 year was definitely too fast for a complete change in personality.
@ Siva: I hope those 2 cans were more symbolic than anything, because they’d have one hell of a hard time convincing me that Dorito-kun and Matsuri came back to life.
@ Kanon_fan82: I was really surprised at how well they wrapped things up, as the week went on I was seriously expecting the miracle end. Despite the amount of borrowed cliche, I’m going to give Sola somewhere around an 8.5-9, because it was really well done.
@ Danny: All hope for subtlety was lost when Hige started throwing out the UV light darts XD
I’m in the same boat as you as far as liking Matsuri and Dorito-kun though, but it had to end with their deaths, there really was no other way to wrap things up and still make sense in the context of the story. But it’s not like they were killed off against their will, so I still liked it.
I’m really curious as to what the OVA will cover, while I want to see Matsuri and Dorito-kun again, I cringe at the thought of them being brought back to life somehow. Maybe it will be an AIR style OVA and cover the flashback arc in detail. That would be awesome.
Hey this is just a random question/request :)….
Can anyone recommend a good anime series to watch??? (ie. from previous years)
I’m kind of in a lull right now and don’t have any particular excitement for the Summer season…..I need something to fill the void lol….
I’m open to any genre…thanks! :)
Series I’ve watched…..or at least the ones I’ve watched all the way through lol:
Haruhi
Elfen Lied
Kanon (’06)
Air
Nanoha A’s
Mai Otome & Mai Hime
Death Note
Sailor Moon series
I just finished watching the whole of the ARIA series, it was amazing. But be warned, it’s a REALLY calm slice of life series, meaning that if you’re not in the mood for a relaxing anime, you might find it boring as hell. It was a great series just to relax with as a calm down from something like Death Note, and worked its way into my favourite anime of all time.
If you’re not up for a slice of life…
Shounen: Shakugan no Shana
Comedy: Azumanga Daioh, Ichigo Mashimaro, Pani Poni Dash, School Rumble I & II, Hidamari Sketch, Hayate no Gotoku, Lovely Complex
Dark Humor: Welcome to the NHK
Mecha: Gurren Lagann, FMP
Alternative Slice of Lifes: Haibane Renmei, Honey & Clover I & II
The italicized series are still ongoing.
You should be able to find SOMETHING you like in all of that XD If you want to see how they stacked up in my eyes, there’s always my anime seen list. Alternatively you can use that and sort by ranking to see what I think is the best of the best out there.
@Shirukii : lol omg, u only give FFATE/STAY Night 6 points? and Strawberry Panic 8 points? Wooooooow Neon Genesis Evangelion got S+ ? i heard that Neon is a great anime but havent try i yet but i know some details about it. And something i would agree with u are Iriya no Sora, UFO no Natsu got 10 points , Chobits got 9 points, Busou Renkin got 9 points and some others, and i just finished Busou Renkin yesterday.
Hey Shirukii, i would like u to create a post that talk about everyone’s favorite Anime. So we can have alot of discussions about our favorite animes instead of random post it every where.
Back to the topic:
“I hope those 2 cans were more symbolic than anything, because they’d have one hell of a hard time convincing me that Dorito-kun and Matsuri came back to life.” So u understand what i do understand. We know that a Miracle for Sola is hard to happened or never happened at all and we know those 2 cans are the symbol for Yorito and Matsuri but beside this i have no idea how r they going to reappear.
@ Siva: F/SN used to have a higher ranking, but then I played the game, and it was MUCH better. Strawberry Panic was really good at times, REALLY bad at other times, I couldn’t bring myself to give it a higher rating because of the bad times, but overall I liked it a lot.
Sure, when I find a break in my schedule, I’ll do a post on my top 3 or top 5 anime, then we can all fanboy over our favourite series XD
Definitely, I just don’t know how they could come back to life and not ruin the plot entirely.
@Shirukii : oh so i see ur reason now. i heard that the game has more detail than the anime but i didnt think the anime was lack of details that much. And for SP, it is just like what u said it maybe hard for someone to be able to accepted a story that just about girl love girl. Even myself before i am going to watch it, i have already prepared everything for myself, lol so i wont regret it if it turn out so gay. I never though that i enjoy watching it so much and i love the ending how Tamao let Nagisa go to Shizuma, most of ppl who watch the series want see TamaoXShizuma but they forgot one thing about what Tamao want the most is not Nagisa but her Happiness. I would say F/SN and SP are on my top 3 anime.
“Definitely, I just don’t know how they could come back to life and not ruin the plot entirely.” lol, i guess we need the third party to make that up.
>>Sola fans breathe a collective sigh of relief as it manages to not screw up a perfectly set up ending.
Aono lives. I call screw up.
You know, Shirukii, she may have her reasons and yada yada but she’s just a total bitch for the first twelve episodes of the show. The manner in which the creators set her up is one that screams “HATE HER PLZ.” It’s one of those things where you have to ask yourself—how contradictory can pathetic appeals be? It’s not like we know from the beginning that there’s a reason for her bitchiness. We don’t know, until the end, that she may have at one time been a non-shitty person.
And frankly, in the end, we see her as what we’ve seen her all along. She’s deriving a sick selfish pleasure from withholding “the truth” from Mana and Koyori and, in a way, taking advantage of her knowledge of them to interact with them in a “perfect” way. It’s like playing a game through a second time, knowing all the secrets.
Your hate disappeared?
*grabs by collar*
SHIRUKII! YOU KNOW WHY YOU CAN’T KILL ME YET?! YOUR HATRED IS WEAK!!!
….Well, for some reason, this ending reminded me more of Air’s ending than anything else. Fortunally, the deaths of Yorito and Matsuri was pretty well explained, because if they pulled of something as obscure as what happened in Air, I’m going to start calling Bloody murder.
Anyway, it was really good that for once, an anime managed to end of without me yelling: “WTF? That’s it? What happened to *insert random charater name here*?!?” at the computer screen after the credits. The only nit pick I have with it is that they didn’t really did Takeshi and the Suiseiseki ripoff justice. I mean, sure, they had the epilogue scene art the back, but it was nowhere as comprihensive as the epilogue Mano, koyori and Aono had. Then again, doing so would shorten the epilogue the others had, so i guess some things have to be put aside. Hopefully, they will squeeze it into the OVAs.
@ Siva: “I would say F/SN and SP are on my top 3 anime.”
Whoa. Play the F/SN game and watch Marimite, your list will change =P
@ lolikit: I see, I never thought of it in that sense. While it’s true that she was designed to be a target for murderous rage throughout the series, I wonder if telling Aono and Koyori the truth would be a sensible move. What is Aono supposed to tell them?
“There used to be this guy you loved, but the real him died a couple hundred years ago, I made a paper clone to appease my own pain. But then his undead girlfriend showed up and the two committed lovers suicide and left me to rot as a human.”
But I agree that my hate is too weak to kill you, it would take one hell of a troll to do that. Also, if that was an obscure reference, then I fail because I didn’t catch it.
@ Alias: No one cares about Hige and loli in a box (who became Boku at the end). Their ratings in the character polls must have sucked. If Sola is comparable to AIR, then I’d think even more strongly that the OVA will cover the events of the past in depth.
>>Also, if that was an obscure reference, then I fail because I didn’t catch it.
Shit!
I thought you were Narutard enough. I suppose I was wrong. BIG HINT: Itachi, to Sasuke.
@lolikit : i think ur watching anime is unbalance on some characters, because u focused on Aono to died too much so after u didnt see her died at end then u call it is a screw up.
“SHIRUKII! YOU KNOW WHY YOU CAN’T KILL ME YET?! YOUR HATRED IS WEAK!!!” for me i dont need that HATRED just for killing YOU. I am not gay as Sasuke, lol
@Alias : there is 2 episodes of OVA on its way. lol what is in ur mind? Do u really think that they end the anime like that and left alot of things behind and call it “That’s it” ?
Well, I must say I saw it coming (not to mention I read it on your main page before I watched it >
@ Siva: people who like Strawberry Panic can go to hell >:)
@ lolikit: Oh fuck, I forgot about that scene. That was so long ago, before filler hell and before Naruto degraded into the pile of metaphorical shit that is Shippudden.
Oh, and you’ll be back blogging soon enough! They always come back D=
@ Vadigor: Spoilers ftl, huh?
>>Oh fuck, I forgot about that scene.
Well, it was after the show had been going downhill for a couple seasons already. Yes, it was before filler hell, but it was after episode 19. And Naruto after episode 19 is just not the same as Naruto before episode 20. So I can’t blame you.
I’m just chotto disappointed :(
And as for blogging, I don’t doubt it. But one thing’s for sure: I’m not doing it right now. And if I’m not, I may as well leave my site down.
@ loliki : “people who like Strawberry Panic can go to hell >:)” i dont get ur reason at all , why should people who like Strawberry Panic can go to hell? because u dont like it? My favorite anime doesn’t mean it have to be everyone’s favorite anime, right? And ur top #1 anime doesn’t mean have to be my top #1 anime of all the time too, right?
@Shirukii : i have seen some ppl recommend Marimite as a better series than SP and i have tried some random ep of its but it doesn’t seem i like it at that much as SP. The i like the anime it is not just about the plot alone, it has to be how do they design the character , how do i like the character, how do i feel about the character, how do i like the story and how do i feel about the story by combining all of these points together then i got the conclusion.
I just wonder when i saw u gave Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A’s a S+, which episode that make u give it that much?
@ lolikit: If episode 19 is when the Zabuza arc ended, then yeah, I agree.
I don’t think you needed to go as far as taking your site down, but if you feel that’s the right thing to do, it’s your choice. Hopefully you’ll be back in full trolling force.
@ Siva: Don’t mind lolikit, he’s just trolling, he wouldn’t be lolikit if he didn’t. Try not to take it personally.
On its good days, SP certainly had better character designs, but the character depth in Marimite absolutely destroys SP’s. Both are decent yuri series though.
As for Nanoha A’s, I’d say everything from the 5th minute of the first episode to before the epilogue. It was truly a great show, but you can’t go in expecting a deep and complex plot like Claymore or Death Note. Nanoha is a mahou shoujo series, and as such excels in beamspam, yuri undertones and amazing action sequences.
And there’s Feito-chan, one of mai waifus.
Yep, ep 19 was “Zabuza, fallen in the snow” or something.
>>I don’t think you needed to go as far as taking your site down, but if you feel that’s the right thing to do, it’s your choice. Hopefully you’ll be back in full trolling force.
Well, there *are* reasons. For one, DotQ (as in, dotq.org, my site) is pretty much associated with my name in a lot of places. People looking me up could feasibly google for ‘dotq’ and then notdotq comes up—not exactly a good scenario. There are others, but that’s the main one. You know, “all that stupid shit you do as a kid online catching up with you.”
>>Hopefully you’ll be back in full trolling force.
Hell, if and when I come back I’ll have no excuse to not go back to posts in the style of my Lucky Star Episode 01 post. Being an asshole is where it’s at in the aniblogosphere! ^_^
@Siva:
>>Don’t mind lolikit, he’s just trolling, he wouldn’t be lolikit if he didn’t. Try not to take it personally.
Actually, Siva, do take it personally. Liking Strawberry Panic is kind of like liking Soul Link, or Joshikousei, or Green Green, or MagiKano, or Ikkitousen. It’s an indicator of failures in the logical processes of your brain that allow you to like things that are bad. It’s funny, because I just took my site down, and thusly have nothing to link to for back up, but I consider myself somewhat of an ‘expert’ on Strawberry Panic.
I mean, yes, I am just being a troll. On one level.
But on another, seriously, you need to look at what you’re watching on some objective level. The content of SP is mind-numbingly unintelligent. I don’t actually mean that everyone who likes it can go to hell—I would lose many friends to the devil were that wish to come true—but really, it’s a cause for concern if you like it.
And not just because Marimite is ‘better.’
Many reasons for liking Marimite are just as terrible as any feasible reason for liking SP. I enjoyed Marimite for three reasons: one, I laughed my ass off at it the whole time. Two, watching people fail to communicate amuses me (this is why Nanoha is so good IMHO, and the one exception to this is KGNE, which is just EMOOOOOOOOO). Three, THE SYMBOLISM OH MY GOD IT’S SO EXCESSIVE PLEASE WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU ARE UTENA?!!!
SP had some of the amusing and some of the failure to communicate and some of the ridiculous symbolism, but overriding all of that was art design that felt way more fanservicey (gee I wonder why) and “comical situations” that felt directed at people who weren’t in it for serious (what made Marimite laughable at times was how seriously it took itself). IMHO there was a lot of pandering (see: my issues with SHnY and L*S) which detracts a lot.
Anyway. I’m kind of rambling, so I’ll leave it at SP just being terrible and not managing to redeem itself unintentionally in the ways Marimite did.
And no, you’re not expected to share the same opinions as I. For one thing my standards come anime are incredibly high (Shirukii can vouch for this, I believe) and there are some idiosyncrasies in my tastes (Kannazuki no Miko, for instance). You’re also not expected to have good taste, or to be intelligent, so it’s not a problem if you like Strawberry Panic—just, when I see someone say that SP and FS/N are in their top three shows I think to myself, “poor guy has only seen three shows? :( :( :( )
So yeah.
I hope I addressed your confusion regarding my statement. No bad feelings.
PS—A’s is inferior to s1 and StrikerS is inferior to A’s. The best episode of Nanoha to date was the last episode of season one with “how can we be friends?” and frankly all this military crap just detracts from how cool a person Nanoha is.
@Shirukii : “Don’t mind lolikit, he’s just trolling, he wouldn’t be lolikit if he didn’t. Try not to take it personally.” lol, Apparently it look like i do take it seriously but im completely fine with it. Don’t worry about me, it is just that i am a kind of a person who can’t let some1 like lolikit stop trolling around and sit down doing nothing. :)
@lolikit : “For one thing my standards come anime are incredibly high (Shirukii can vouch for this, I believe)” Do how long have been waiting just for this line? u know, i feel like a noob like me fight against another noob doesnt sound fun at all, dont u think so? and finally i feel a lot of good when u say u r a EXPERT.
“The content of SP is mind-numbingly unintelligent.” so in the end u still unable to accept the fact i like SP?
“SP had some of the amusing and some of the failure to communicate and some of the ridiculous symbolism,” i think u r the one who is the failure that unable to accept SP is a good anime.
“when I see someone say that SP and FS/N are in their top three shows I think to myself, “poor guy has only seen three shows?” 3 shows? i can say i am not a EXPERT like u or rater say i am a noob but how can some1 like that only seen 3 shows know there is something they called anime-blog?
Do you really think that i give SP and F/SN in my top 3 shows, just because the animation and the story look good to me? Do you really want to know WHY?
“The best episode of Nanoha to date was the last episode of season one with “how can we be friends?” Are u sure that u r not missing something? Have u check the end of ep10 and the fighting between Nanoha and Fate in ep11?
>>so in the end u still unable to accept the fact i like SP?
No, no, no—you’re missing the point. I accept the fact that you like it.
I just look down on you for it.
>>and finally i feel a lot of good when u say u r a EXPERT.
Well, I kind of studied SP and analyzed almost every moment of it…
>>i think u r the one who is the failure that unable to accept SP is a good anime.
Your hatred! It’s weak!!
>>how can some1 like that only seen 3 shows know there is something they called anime-blog?
Back in the old days, I was watching Naruto. I had seen Mai-HiME. I had just finished AIR. (We’re at 3 shows, right?) And then I found lovelykitsune.com—in other words, an anime blog.
>>Do you really think that i give SP and F/SN in my top 3 shows, just because the animation and the story look good to me? Do you really want to know WHY?
Well, you could tell me why instead of asking questions of me.
>>Are u sure that u r not missing something?
I’m sure I’m not missing anything. They’re much better off when they’re not fighting :3
Oh, and Shirukiikii—sorry for abducting your comments thread like this.
@ lolikit & Siva: No problem, by all means keep at it, I love reading online arguments because they can sometimes wonderful attempts at seeing two people try to refute the other’s logic with their own and pushing their opinions. Other times they turn out to be “NO U” arguments. We’re somewhere in between here.
I think the divide here is the difference in tastes, Siva seems to be the more common anime fan, giving anything a fair chance and trying his hardest to find redeeming qualities here and there.
lolikit, on the other hand, is an unforgiving elitist. Incredibly high standards and often the inability to give a second chance.
There are benefits and detriments to both styles. I try to balance somewhere in between, distinguishing the good from the bad, but watching the bad anyways, just for the hell of it.
As for Nanoha, I was totally in it for the beamspam, and the canon/not so canon Fate and Nanoha pairing. The military shit is ruining it though, and StrikerS is definitely the worst of the trilogy thus far.
“Your hatred! It’s weak!!”
I already said i don’t need that kind of HATRED just to kill u.
“Back in the old days, I was watching Naruto. I had seen Mai-HiME. I had just finished AIR. (We’re at 3 shows, right?) And then I found lovelykitsune.com—in other words, an anime blog.”
I have been started to enjoy anime since the time where Yaiba and Sailor Moon appeared. And it is a bit ridiculous to say that i have only seen 3 shows.
“I’m sure I’m not missing anything. They’re much better off when they’re not fighting :3″
I guess u r still missing it, Do you really think that Nanoha thinks that she is the happiness person in the world when she use her ultimate Starlight Breaker on some1 who she loves/cares so much and want both of them to become the best friend?
“Well, you could tell me why instead of asking questions of me.”
because i dont have much time left to write it down before i go to work.
“Well, I kind of studied SP and analyzed almost every moment of it…”
NOT enough!!!
Ok it is about time to tell u why.
In F/SN the thing that impressed me the most is where Kirei ask about Shiro desire the Holy Grail or not. “If you could make it as if it never happened.. if you could restart everything.. wouldn’t you desire the Holy Grail?” and Shiro answered NO. “I believe this path is not wrong.” and if u want to completely understand it then u need to re-watch ep22 again where the event take place. The thing that impressed me the most is where Shiro says “I believe this path is not wrong.” Will u ever to say those words when u have a chance to redo ur sadness past and grant ur wish with a happy-life?
IN SP, if u happened to finished the whole series, good then.
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IN SP, if u happened to finished the whole series, good then.
1. In Ep21, if u read all the words in the letter which is Kaori left behind for Shizuma then u will understand what i am going to explain u. Did u ever though of something like that or u just thinking about how much u regret that u r going to die soon after u have some1 u love being with u and become the Elite? And the most impression is where the letter says “Shizuma, please free yourself. Retain of what I’ve always loved about you.” Do u ever thinking of saying those to some1 u love before u die if u were in Kaori’s situation?
2. In the last episode, where Tamao let Nagisa go to reunite with Shizuma instead of forcing Nagisa to stay with her. At that time I was like OMG! they are doing something that i had been waiting to see it for a long time. At that time even if I were Tamao i will just do the same thing as her if i loved Nagisa than everything i ever had. Do you think i am crazy?
>>As for Nanoha, I was totally in it for the beamspam, and the canon/not so canon Fate and Nanoha pairing.
IMHO, the canon aspect of their relationship is by far the better. Yeah, yeah, rampant fantasies are fantastic and all. Call me a sucker. I like strong friendship.
>>lolikit, on the other hand, is an unforgiving elitist.
Oh! Oh! Did you see that comment? http://not.dotq.org/index-hidden.php?p=237#comment-20082 It made me smile. ^^
>>I already said i don’t need that kind of HATRED just to kill u.
It’s taking me everything I got to not pull swimming lesson quotes on you.
>>I have been started to enjoy anime since the time where Yaiba and Sailor Moon appeared. And it is a bit ridiculous to say that i have only seen 3 shows.
… Sailor Moon is better than Strawberry Panic.
>>I guess u r still missing it, Do you really think that Nanoha thinks that she is the happiness person in the world when she use her ultimate Starlight Breaker on some1 who she loves/cares so much and want both of them to become the best friend?
I never claimed to know what Nanoha thinks; however, by all means, if you want me to I shall. I think that she cares a lot about Fate and doesn’t want to fight. I think that she’s happier when they’re not fighting. I think that when they’re done fighting, and taking their first steps as ‘real’ friends finally, they’re both happier for it. And I like that happiness. Did Aria make me a wimp? I don’t mind if it did. The beamspamming is funny, as Shirukii mentioned (or maybe he has serious penis envy), but it’s nowhere near as satisfying to me as two people being people and more than that, being friends. Maybe you don’t understand—the final episode of Nanoha season 1 touched me. For anime, that’s impressive. Again, Shirukii can vouch for me here :)
>>NOT enough!!!
I agree, it wasn’t enough to puke. I got all the way through the series. Let me take back what I said earlier: it’s not as bad as Ikkitousen. I apologize for the slight on its not-100%-crappy name.
>>In F/SN the thing that impressed me the most is where Kirei ask about Shiro desire the Holy Grail or not.
Every scene involving Kirei has me laughing in my chair and thinking “oh my god child rapist”—no joke.
>>Will u ever to say those words when u have a chance to redo ur sadness past and grant ur wish with a happy-life?
No, I don’t think I will. But that’s mainly because “redoing” things is, as exposed in Shirukii’s reviews of Sola, an emo plot device meant for base pathetic appeals in fiction. Real life, while it can support trolls, unfortunately does not house magic, grails, maid armies, or men as sexy as Archer.
>>IN SP, if u happened to finished the whole series, good then.
I did. Was it good?
>>Do u ever thinking of saying those to some1 u love before u die if u were in Kaori’s situation?
I’ve had the good fortune of never attending lesbian school. I call it good fortune because I’m not female. But on the metalevel you’re taking SP at, sure, I’ve thought of situations like that. I write well when I think about things like that. Prose just flows from my keyboard and it’s all very good. But in terms of interacting with others or being intelligent, considering situations such as those that pop up in SP is terrible.
>>At that time even if I were Tamao i will just do the same thing as her if i loved Nagisa than everything i ever had.
Yeah? Heh… frankly, at that point, I didn’t care anymore. Supposing that scene had ‘power,’ then what were the first 25 episodes? They would be the ‘game club’ of Higurashi to SP. As explained elsewhere, that’s just bad.
>>Do you think i am crazy?
No. As you should be well aware, I just think you’re stupid.
Eh, you know what?
Actually, allow me to do something halfway between condescending and elevating. We’re equals. I watched SP, and was touched by moments of it when there was a connection to emotions I’ve felt in my life, in relation to other people.
Now allow me to tell you what those emotions were.
When I fell in love with my best friend. This was gold, I assure you. Things were real awkward for a long time. They still are. Tamao is a better person than me for being able to let go, and I still look up to her for it. Oh, and true story.
When I fell in love with a younger girl’s cuteness. She wasn’t wearing a maid uniform, though.
When I refused to talk to anyone I knew because I was being emo. Again, true story. It’s why I quit anime blogging the second time. (This is my third time).
Well, those are all true stories (and all related) and show how SP’s feelings are reflected in my heart. But what you find, when you examine these stories of mine, is that my emotions are completely screwball and lame. Any connection to a show like SP is just a disgrace to the show. So yeah… even when I try to find something meaningful, it just isn’t there. Ever heard this line from a song: “is there anything redeeming, any worthwhile feeling, is my life like a tight rope, hanging from my ceiling?” Well, no, there’s nothing redeeming. No worthwhile feeling. Etc.
I’m being pestered by my brother’s chess students so I can’t really focus on this argument right now, unfortunately.
If I left anything unraveled please let me know so I can get back to this discussion.
Thx so much lolikit for all of those replying, and thx for ur true story :)
I never think this is an argument at all, but i just want to get to know more about u. Alright thats enough, it is about time to end this war between us. Now i can understand u a lot and i can say the way of our thinking is different and even the point of our view is also different, so there is nobody right or wrong here.
“When I fell in love with my best friend. This was gold, I assure you.” Gold? How can u compare it to gold? I think it is something that better than gold or cant even compare with.
May be i should introduce myself to u also.
when i was young i have never had any friends or best friends at all until i am grade 8. So the feeling of being alone is something that i understand it the most or u can say what kind of pain it is. When ur first time u has a best friends , i think u know what kind of feeling u had back there and how much u enjoyed those feelings with them. There r a lot of things happened but i think i should stop here.
Thx for everything u share with me. ^_^
>>Gold?
Irony, my good friend.
>>Thx for everything u share with me. ^_^
Shit, you’re so pleasant, it’s like trying to be an asshole but then being confronted by suteki-mode. I can’t fight against it anymore. I give up.
The series’ end is perfect. They close the circles, not leaving any loose ends (apart from those 2 cans in the gazebo tatami). I heard (not confirmed rumor)..
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anyway, even if this is true or not, I’m really “scared” of the OVA’s. Might turn the series into a total crap.
Peace